Originally Posted by aplnub How is this giong for everyone? I have played around with it quite a bit and am thinking about dumping Word and Excel in favor of NeoOffice. File compatibility is the only thing left holding me in the MS world of software (excluding Autocad LT). I think it's still too slow. Hopefully a native OpenOffice will improve this by not using Java. Interface elements still flicker too much and the launch time for new documents and the app itself is sluggish.
What you said was that I have no place criticizing the UI of NeoOffice unless I'm capable of 'forking OO.org, building it with Aqua widgets, and making it as 'Mac-like' as possible'. No, I didn't.
When you see how quickly Office goes on a Windows machine, all the word editing packages for OS X are disappointing. The only one that comes close is TextEdit.
I use Pages instead of NeoOffice these days for text docs but on occasions I use NeoOffice for spreadsheets. Pages is slow too though.
Appleworks is pretty speedy, I wish they'd get that kind of speed into Pages. Trust me, once any OS X port of OOo starts getting font handling and input methods correct, it'll slow down as well. This is true especially for Asian and other foreign languages.
The bottleneck is in Apple's ATSUI and how it mismatches to the underlying OOo code. Has nothing to do with Java at all. Speed in a vaporware demo is one thing; carrying speed into a functional product is something different completely. And if you think that, while Sun and OpenOffice continue to struggle to port OpenOffice to Mac, Ed and Neooffice will soldier on, this latest development should concern you. Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz (Score: 1) by vicjoe on Saturday, May 05 @ 02:07:23 PDT (User Info Send a Message) This is so depressing.
The 'send free beer' sounds to me like defeat in the face of irrational opposition. I've spent several hours reading threads at OOo and blogs, and there are a lot of people pulling for NeoOffice. This is a crucial moment for people to step up to the plate ($$); as I understand it, there are a few bumps in the road, one being changes to the latest Apple iteration of Java that are challenging, there is no more OOo development of the X11 version, hence the newest code is no longer available to the NeoOffice team, and the announcement of Sun providing 2 full-time programmers to the OOo Aqua port will cause some expectant (naive?) users to withhold donations to NeoOffice (the OOo Aqua version will be Carbon, not Cocoa, btw). Fact is, Sun has made promises concerning the Mac platform before and has failed to deliver; also there is some kind of weird hubris among the OOo people, who seem to have marginalized NeoOffice, e.g. Where the only link you can find in OOo pages to NeoOffice is from their Wiki.
So there you have it. The future looks bleak for Mac office software users, unless KOffice 2.0 is successfully natively ported to OS X or the next version of iWork contains a spreadsheet program. Originally Posted by Marvin I think it's still too slow.
Hopefully a native OpenOffice will improve this by not using Java. Interface elements still flicker too much and the launch time for new documents and the app itself is sluggish. When you see how quickly Office goes on a Windows machine, all the word editing packages for OS X are disappointing. The only one that comes close is TextEdit. I use Pages instead of NeoOffice these days for text docs but on occasions I use NeoOffice for spreadsheets. Pages is slow too though.
Appleworks is pretty speedy, I wish they'd get that kind of speed into Pages. Originally Posted by aplnub How is this giong for everyone?
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I have played around with it quite a bit and am thinking about dumping Word and Excel in favor of NeoOffice. File compatibility is the only thing left holding me in the MS world of software (excluding Autocad LT). I've been using NeoOffice for a few weeks. It's okay, but I don't think it's a good substitute for MS Office. I really hate saying that. I would like nothing better than to ditch MS. I have even tried Google's word processor - so so.
Google has a spread sheet also, but I haven't tried it. One thing that commends NeoOffice is it's ability to translate files other than MS. When I switched to Mac over 5 years ago, I had a lot of WordPerfect files. I copied them to my Mac, but I couldn't open them with MS.
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However, NeoOffice can translate them and I was able to retrieve what I thought were lost files. Originally Posted by PB I see, lightning speed.
This is promising software but it still needs a lot of work. I'd rather it was killed altogether, and the servers hosting it be burned down with Fire and Garlic (for good measure) and the remains be stuffed into an airtight container that's dropped to the bottom of the ocean, right next to Spotlight.
I recently downloaded the Nisus Writer Pro Public Beta 1 and I'm thoroughly impressed with it. I'm really hoping this isn't priced anymore than $60-$100 when it's released. I used Neo Office (Word and Excel equivalents) for a whole week at my work.
No exceptions. It was great adn speed was not an issue at all like some have suggested on my mini CD. It lacks refinement but is an excellent Word Processor and Spreadsheet in place of MS Office if you want to run legal and not spend the cash. I eagerly await future versions. KOffice would be great to have on the Mac natively.
I will say that NO Spreadsheet was a better substitute for Excel than NO Docuemnt was for Word while both were absolutely great.